U.S. Jail Statistics

7 02 2010

Wow…just wow.

Another reason to feel embarrassed for America and another reason to hate the military industrial complex and big business in general.

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7 02 2010
Barbara

Just another reason to love the good ole’ U.S. That and Sarah Palin of course. Now that there is some patriotism. *sigh*

8 02 2010
Him

So, what’s the problem? They committed crimes. Should we say, “ok cool, no problem. Have a nice day.” Your anti-religion posts are great. Your anti-American posts are crap & often misleading.

8 02 2010
SuperJesus

Just because I’m pointing out that our system of “justice” is broken doesn’t mean I’m anti-American. Quite the contrary, I’m very pro-American because I am interested in making it better. I think it’s the person who sees how terribly flawed the system is but just shrugs and defends it is the anti-American one because we should be better.

We should be the fucking best.

In 2008 the United States had 2.3 million criminals behind bars, more than any other nation, according to data maintained by the International Center for Prison Studies at King’s College London. China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison.

Or are you okay with a legal system that hands out such disproportionate punishments for misdemeanor crimes? Are you okay with being the US being the #1 country in the world when it comes to detaining it’s own citizens? Really?!

10 02 2010
Chris

Are you one of those people that think just because I don’t want us involved in Iraq, I must hate the troops?

8 02 2010
Barbara

Isn’t one of the greatest things about living in the U.S. is the ability to openly complain about the injustice that occurs and potentially change it? 🙂

8 02 2010
Barbara

Here is a great link to see just how unbalanced things are.

http://www.sentencingproject.org/map/map.cfm

8 02 2010
SuperJesus

Great link. Thanks for that!

8 02 2010
Barbara

Credit where due. A friend at myspace. I’m linking this blog. 🙂

9 02 2010
Him

“Just because I’m pointing out that our system of “justice” is broken doesn’t mean I’m anti-American. Quite the contrary, I’m very pro-American because I am interested in making it better. I think it’s the person who sees how terribly flawed the system is but just shrugs and defends it is the anti-American one because we should be better.

We should be the fucking best.

In 2008 the United States had 2.3 million criminals behind bars, more than any other nation, according to data maintained by the International Center for Prison Studies at King’s College London. China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison.

Or are you okay with a legal system that hands out such disproportionate punishments for misdemeanor crimes? Are you okay with being the US being the #1 country in the world when it comes to detaining it’s own citizens? Really?!”

Well, since you asked…No, I’m not “ok” with the U.S. being #1 in detaining it’s own citizens. That’s a silly & loaded question to begin with. I don’t like that a huge number of people are incarcerated because of small amount drug charges. Or that a graffiti writer in Texas gets 8 years, while the national average for rapists is 6-8. Does the system have it’s flaws, yes, of course it does. But, the majority of the time, it works. If the racial populations/ratios are not to your liking, maybe you should speak with the people who perpetrated the crimes they were convicted of. I’ve been to jail and then to prison(served 8 months for aggravated assault) and I can tell you first hand that most of those mofos are as guilty as it gets.
You speak of China & post videos of the Brits observing & laughing at us. Fine. But, let’s be clear. The UK & the European countries have much smaller populations than we do. They also lack our violence/gun happy culture that is all so prevalent in our society. Who’s to blame? China is an absurd comparison because China is nothing like the US. It is a communist country & culturally, people(for the most part) tow the line. Law breakers are dealt with quickly & severely. People know that if they fuck up, it’s gonna’ be bad. Often death bad. And not after years of appeals. As in almost immediate. No clean needle & last words. Just a bullet to the head or worse.
Now, let me ask you a question. How are YOU making it better? By posting vids with sarcastic comments on a little known website? Seriously. If you head some large movement I’m unaware of, my apologies. But, tell me/us, what are YOU doing to change the unfair/biased/racist/socioeconomically challenged legal system in this country? What? Observing doesn’t count.
Again, your vids on the absurdity of organized religion are on point. I greatly enjoy them. Best to you.

There’s nothing “wrong” with wanting to improve our justice system. It can always use it.

Now let me ask you something.

27 03 2010
SuperJesus

How can you agree that we detain an absurd number of people, cite obviously ludicrous crimes with ridiculous terms and then insist that “the majority of the time, it works”. The facts show that the majority of the time it clearly doesn’t and you’re hedging close to pure racial profiling to dismiss racial ratios by blaming the “criminals” alone. I suppose by the same logic you blame blacks for getting lynched so often during the days of slavery because they were always hanging from trees.

Of course your expert opinion as an ex con is very persuading. A good credibility builder. Be sure to leave that on your resume.

When you point out that UK & European populations are smaller than the US it is sadly irrelevant and you’re completely missing the point since we’re talking percentages of the population. You are of course correct to concede that we have a violence and gun happy culture but I hope you’re not suggesting the answer to our problem is Chinese style communism. Yeah, I didn’t think so.

As to what am I doing to make it better? I’m talking about the problem, not just here but to my neighbors, my friends, my mayor, and my Congresswoman and Senators. I’m trying to let others know what is going on and encouraging them to vote intelligently and not just for some douche bag Republican who says the words “tough on crime” and then implements brain dead laws like we have now that lock up people unfairly all while they give bail outs and performance bonuses to their criminally fraudulent bank buddies.

And yes, observing does count so long as you have the balls to stand up and do whatever you can to broadcast the atrocities and to demand them to be changed. What doesn’t count is when you observe it and instead somehow convince yourself that it’s really all okay, dismiss the people who are shouting in outrage, and go back to sticking your head in the sand.

So while I will concede I might not be having a huge impact on the problem I will stand by the fact that I’m doing whatever I can.

So perhaps we can at least agree that our justice system can use some fixing.

27 03 2010
Matt

That’s a great point, as well as a great comeback Him. I’m totally with you. You nailed it 100%

11 04 2010
Him

“How can you agree that we detain an absurd number of people, cite obviously ludicrous crimes with ridiculous terms and then insist that “the majority of the time, it works”. The facts show that the majority of the time it clearly doesn’t and you’re hedging close to pure racial profiling to dismiss racial ratios by blaming the “criminals” alone. I suppose by the same logic you blame blacks for getting lynched so often during the days of slavery because they were always hanging from trees.

Of course your expert opinion as an ex con is very persuading. A good credibility builder. Be sure to leave that on your resume.

When you point out that UK & European populations are smaller than the US it is sadly irrelevant and you’re completely missing the point since we’re talking percentages of the population. You are of course correct to concede that we have a violence and gun happy culture but I hope you’re not suggesting the answer to our problem is Chinese style communism. Yeah, I didn’t think so.

As to what am I doing to make it better? I’m talking about the problem, not just here but to my neighbors, my friends, my mayor, and my Congresswoman and Senators. I’m trying to let others know what is going on and encouraging them to vote intelligently and not just for some douche bag Republican who says the words “tough on crime” and then implements brain dead laws like we have now that lock up people unfairly all while they give bail outs and performance bonuses to their criminally fraudulent bank buddies.

And yes, observing does count so long as you have the balls to stand up and do whatever you can to broadcast the atrocities and to demand them to be changed. What doesn’t count is when you observe it and instead somehow convince yourself that it’s really all okay, dismiss the people who are shouting in outrage, and go back to sticking your head in the sand.

So while I will concede I might not be having a huge impact on the problem I will stand by the fact that I’m doing whatever I can.

So perhaps we can at least agree that our justice system can use some fixing.”

Wow. I guess you got me. You shouldn’t assume that anyone, who doesn’t blow your horn, is a racist/Republican knuckle dragger. I make excuses for no one. But, the “whole system is fucked” mentality gets tiresome. Does jail suck shit? Absolutely. It’s kind of the point. Could it use improvement? Of course. Let me know when you’re able to remove human nature from humans and you might start to see an improvement. Sarcasm does little more than expose your youth & naivete. Call me an ex-con(or anything else for that matter). Name calling has nothing to do with the fact that I am, in fact, very well educated, experienced and well traveled. My wife is Asian (Indo-Chinese, in fact). I am not a racist. And I do not vote Republican nor Democrat.

11 04 2010
SuperJesus

I don’t think I called you a racist and I apologize if you think I did. I was only pointing out the statistically evident systemic racism inherent in our current criminal justice system. As for name calling, I apologize. I didn’t know the term ex con was offensive. If I may ask, what is the preferred nomenclature for someone with your status?

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