Abraham Lincoln Was No Jesus Freak

12 02 2009

“Mr. Lincoln was never a member of any Church, nor did he believe in the divinity of Christ, or the inspiration of the Scriptures in the sense understood by evangelical Christians.

When a boy, he showed no sign of that piety which his many biographers ascribe to his manhood. When he went to church at all, he went to mock, and came away to mimic.

When he came to New Salem, he consorted with Freethinkers, joined with them in deriding the gospel story of Jesus, read Volney and Paine, and then wrote a deliberate and labored essay, wherein he reached conclusions similar to theirs.”

— Colonel Ward H. Lamon (a religionist and Lincoln’s longtime friend), Life of Abraham Lincoln, pp. 486, 487, 157 (1872), cited by Franklin Steiner in The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents

Happy Birthday to you Mr. Lincoln

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13 responses

12 02 2009
Doulos

Not to mention his mystical ties. Didn’t he attend seances and believe that a spirit led him to give the emancipation speech?

10 04 2009
Recon-Team

You have no understanding of Lincoln whatsoever you tool. Then again most of you atheists are a bunch of mentally deranged fanatics so I suppose you would not understand a man as complex as him.

And atheists are not “freethinkers” you moron.

10 04 2009
SuperJesus

As a moronic non-freethinking mentally deranged fanatic tool I look forward to your full treatise on how you know more about Lincoln than his long time personal friend Colonel Lamon.

Ad hominem much?

12 05 2009
getalifeagain

After Willie died, Mary states that Lincoln became Christian, and Lincoln alludes to and references the Savior a few times after this.

12 05 2009
SuperJesus

Your claim sounds more hopeful than authoritative. Some references to reputable sources would help you here.

12 05 2009
getalifeagain

I read from a reputable source and from an associate quoting him that Lincoln stated something to the effect that if a church put on its mantle The Savior’s condensed message that you will love your God with all your heart, soul, and mind and you will love thy neighbor as thyself, that church I will join with all my heart.

I am doing this from memory, therefore I paraphrase what Lincoln stated.

12 05 2009
SuperJesus

So your proof that Lincoln became a Christian is that he supposedly made a provisional comment about joining a church IF they were to focus on “love thy neighbor”? I don’t mean to be rude but that isn’t very convincing.

12 05 2009
getalifeagain

The statement Lincoln made (that I paraphrased above) was told to Congressman Henry C. Deming of Connecticut.

4 06 2009
Crime Report

The TRUTH: Abraham Lincoln was diligent in his communications with Jesus Christ, but found the churches to be hypocrites and racist, and its leaders as violent against diverse people as those he considered criminals. The leaders of most of the churches were as much his enemies as the Confederates. He made his communications with Christ private, without favoring a denomination, as Christ asked. Joining a church in the days of the Civil War would have simply given him two wars in one. The success of this war and revolution would not have ignited without the critical strategic obedience to God, withstanding the fact that ALL MEN and WOMEN are from the same two people. He veered the nation back in the direction of TRUTH, saving many souls, as God is TRUTH and the LIGHT.

4 06 2009
Super Jesus

Look at the Gay Marriage issue and the recent murder of Dr. James Kopp and you’ll see that churches are still full of hypocrites and racists with leaders and members violent against “other” people. But back to Lincoln, since you claim he made his communications with Christ private…how would you know?

8 11 2009
ricko

I just would like to say this lincoln guy in the least of his ways and most certainly of high conscience and moral purity , was a better man than I as a hypocrit siting in church every sunday.
Lincoln quotes:
That I am not a member of any Christian Church, is true; but I have never denied the truth of the Scriptures; and I have never spoken with intentional disrespect of religion in general, or any denomination of Christians in particular.
–July 31, 1846 Handbill Replying to Charges of Infidelity
I do not think I could myself, be brought to support a man for office, whom I knew to be an open enemy of, and scoffer at religion.
–July 31, 1846 Handbill Replying to Charges of Infidelity
Intelligence, patriotism, Christianity, and a firm reliance on Him, who has never yet forsaken this favored land, are still competent to adjust, in the best way, all our present difficulty.
–March 4, 1861 First Inaugural Address
“…I know that the Lord is always on the side of the right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the Lord’s side.”
“In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book.”
“The will of God prevails. In great contests each party claims to act in accordance with the will of God. Both may be, and one must be, wrong. God cannot be for and against the same thing at the same time. In the present civil war it is quite possible that God’s purpose is something different from the purpose of either party – and yet the human instrumentalities, working just as they do, are of the best adaptation to effect His purpose.”

8 11 2009
SuperJesus

“God must love the common man, he made so many of them”

I think he was talking about the tea-baggers.

10 05 2010
MikysVps2

Nice thought. I love it. Thank you for posting

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